Discussion:La protection des circuits

Chapter G >> Migration Done --Suniti (discussion) 30 mai 2016 à 21:38 (EDT)

To do for Laurent

Mix 3 pages Protection, Coupure et Sectionnement Protection du conducteur neutre --Romain.R (discussion) 6 juin 2016 à 11:07 (EDT)

done, merged pages Protection du conducteur neutre, Coupure du conducteur neutre, Sectionnement du conducteur neutre to a single page named Protection, coupure et sectionnement du conducteur neutre

+ added a missing "grey box" that was in the book but forgotten in the wiki

+ updated TOC, nav template, small manual TOC ... and also Splitting file

Romain and/or Suniti please take a look to confirm I did not make mistake

Laurent to check if same should be done in EN wiki (probably yes)

--LMischler (discussion) 16 juin 2016 à 07:58 (EDT)

need to add a link

• in page Courant de court-circuit d’un générateur ou d’une ASI it says "se reporter au chapitre N"

Romain please replace link, check EN wiki page en:Short-circuit current supplied by a generator or an inverter for suggestion (2 links in fact)

and check splitting file for name of future pages

--LMischler (discussion) 16 juin 2016 à 05:16 (EDT)

Text Format changed >> to be confirmed

• Pdf pg G5 >> Détermination de la protection

I think a table willl be better, with In lab first column and K3 label for the 2nd column --Romain.R (discussion) 8 juin 2016 à 08:12 (EDT)

Romain :

yes, this text is not looking good, AND is really hard to understand

please check with Denis how to re-formulate

also, this content about K₃ (french specific) is at the wrong place in the text I believe: it seems to be related to "protection par fusible" and not to "Association de dispositif ..."

Romain please move this content to the proper place

Suniti: can you already change all the K3 in proper format k₃

--LMischler (discussion) 14 juin 2016 à 13:42 (EDT)

I have changed the required K3 format --Suniti (discussion) 16 juin 2016 à 02:30 (EDT)

Suniti sorry I was not precise enough: the K should also be small letter, not capital letter (both for k₂ and k₃)

Done --Romain.R (discussion) 16 juin 2016 à 09:35 (EDT)

Extra text is coming and note points are not aligned properly

• Pdf pg G5 >> Fig G6 >> Détermination de la protection#Règle générale

Laurent to check, pb with template

I finally found the problem ... took me quite some time

it comes from a missing </p> in a bullet list with extra content paragraph in it, just before this figure

Suniti : if you see this problem again, check for missing <p> or </p> in bullet lists before that image (or table, maybe)

--LMischler (discussion) 14 juin 2016 à 13:20 (EDT)

FR Tables content different from EN tables To be checked with Denis

• Fig G52

Suniti you did not put any comment so I don't know what your point was anymore. I checked anyway and saw that you forgot to use the syntax with TableStart and TableEnd

so please change it --LMischler (discussion) 15 juin 2016 à 13:13 (EDT)

Romain has remigrated the table agian (I think) because the table that I migrated was the French PDF one and it is different from EN

Syntax changed --Suniti (discussion) 16 juin 2016 à 02:50 (EDT)

Suniti no change in the page, still old syntax (I'm afraid you might forgotten to save the page)

DONE

• Fig Gf17 >> text added with image

Sub sub-bullets used

• Pg G22 >> Calcul de la chute de tension en ligne en régime permanent
• Pg G44 >> Dimensionnement du conducteur neutre

Changed to Level 3/Level 4

• Pdf pg G5 >> Détermination de la protection
• Pdf pg G6 >> Emplacement des protections
• Pdf pg G12 >> Méthode générale de dimensionnement des canalisations#Facteurs de correction 
• PDF pg G57 >> Méthode générale de dimensionnement des canalisations

Ok for me--Romain.R (discussion) 8 juin 2016 à 08:06 (EDT)

Note points >> Position to be checked

• PDF pg G13 >> Méthode générale de dimensionnement des canalisations#Résistivité thermique du sol

ok , checked

Text Format changed >> to be confirmed

• PDF pg G50 >> Fig Gf2

ok, checked --Romain.R (discussion) 8 juin 2016 à 08:31 (EDT)

Bullet points added to following pages

• PDF pg G4 >> Principe de la protection des circuits contre les surintensités
• PDF pg G25 >> Courant de court-circuit triphasé au secondaire d'un transformateur MT/BT
• PDF pg G56 >> Détermination de la section des canalisations non enterrées
• PDF pg G59 >> Détermination de la section des canalisations enterrées
• PDF pg G60 >> (chaged "-" to sub-bullets) Détermination de la section des canalisations enterrées#Exemple 4

FR Tables content different from EN tables >> To be checked with Denis

• Fig G12 (one row is missing in FR) - modified --LMischler (discussion) 15 juin 2016 à 09:59 (EDT)
• Fig G13 (one row is missing in FR) - modified --LMischler (discussion) 15 juin 2016 à 09:59 (EDT)
• Fig G17 (one number is different) - correction done by Suniti = same as EN = OK --LMischler (discussion) 15 juin 2016 à 13:13 (EDT)

• Fig G20 (One coloumn of text is extra in EN, numbers are very different and 6 images in FR while 7 in EN )

I confirm that the EN numbers are the good ones, and that's the ones added by Suniti in FR wiki ==> so no change required in the numbers

Suniti: I added the english source image (with all icons of this table, including the missing one in FR wiki) in the box (in "modified source images" folder - ch.G - file 'FigG20new.eps')

please convert and upload it

Added the image >> the table is done now --Suniti (discussion) 16 juin 2016 à 02:30 (EDT)

OK --LMischler (discussion) 16 juin 2016 à 05:12 (EDT)

• Fig G22 (one extra column in EN) - OK keep the additional column as in english --LMischler (discussion) 15 juin 2016 à 13:13 (EDT)

nota from Laurent = approximation vs standard, but is it a "simplified approach"

• Fig G36 (Note: Formula added in EN, also added here but still some content is different)

I have made some corrections in FR wiki, for coherence with EN updates (some were missing in FR book update)

should be OK --LMischler (discussion) 15 juin 2016 à 13:13 (EDT)

• Fig G37 (Note: Formula added in EN, also added here but still some content is different)

Suniti I don't see where the differences are

The numbers are OK... Just need to change "Not considered in practice" to French --Suniti (discussion) 16 juin 2016 à 02:38 (EDT)

done --LMischler (discussion) 16 juin 2016 à 05:12 (EDT)

• Fig G39 (formula in the table note is different) - OK like this, no need to change FR or EN, both are OK --LMischler (discussion) 15 juin 2016 à 13:13 (EDT)

• Fig G58 (position of table rows is different) - OK, no change required, both EN et FR versions are OK --LMischler (discussion) 15 juin 2016 à 13:13 (EDT)
• Fig G59 (minor number change) - OK, it was a mistake in the FR book (missing number), correction is OK and done --LMischler (discussion) 15 juin 2016 à 13:13 (EDT)
• Fig G63 - I made the modification = deleted one line (same as EN)

Changes in EN WIKI

• No navigation panel in EN (Module 4.4)PDF pg G30

i don't understand this point, Suniti could you explain me ?--Romain.R (discussion) 15 juin 2016 à 10:31 (EDT)

Romain, this point is for Laurent ;) to add the navigation panel syntax on one of the EN wiki page --Suniti (discussion) 16 juin 2016 à 02:59 (EDT)

correction done --LMischler (discussion) 16 juin 2016 à 05:45 (EDT)

• PDF pg G33 >> Change in formula (≤ instead of ≥)

Laurent: check EN wiki, there are mistakes

correction done --LMischler (discussion) 16 juin 2016 à 05:45 (EDT)

PDF pg G32 >> Fig G42b >> (1) and (2) are footnotes ?

to check with Denis--Romain.R (discussion) 15 juin 2016 à 10:12 (EDT)

no, they are not footnotes ... it was a "complicated" way to say that extra protection is not necessary if already provided by the speed drive ... changed it to clear text

--LMischler (discussion) 16 juin 2016 à 05:45 (EDT)

Footnote text is missing

• PDF pg G41

Reference added --Suniti (discussion) 1 juin 2016 à 03:55 (EDT)

OK, done --LMischler (discussion) 16 juin 2016 à 05:45 (EDT)

Table notes format to be checked

• Pdf pg G46 >> fig G63 Sectionnement du conducteur neutre

OK for me --LMischler (discussion) 16 juin 2016 à 05:45 (EDT)

Table footnote is there in En but not in FR

• Pdf pg G48 >> Fig G63c

the footnote was replaced by the note

images to be checked (For Laurent )

• Fig G20 (Extra image in EN)

done --LMischler (discussion) 16 juin 2016 à 05:45 (EDT)