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:: need to check with denis--[[Utilisateur:Romain.R|Romain.R]] ([[Discussion utilisateur:Romain.R|discussion]]) 22 juillet 2016 à 05:14 (EDT)
 
:: need to check with denis--[[Utilisateur:Romain.R|Romain.R]] ([[Discussion utilisateur:Romain.R|discussion]]) 22 juillet 2016 à 05:14 (EDT)
 
::: We keep the datas from the FR pdf for the table 2 and 3--[[Utilisateur:Romain.R|Romain.R]] ([[Discussion utilisateur:Romain.R|discussion]]) 18 août 2016 à 04:21 (EDT)
 
::: We keep the datas from the FR pdf for the table 2 and 3--[[Utilisateur:Romain.R|Romain.R]] ([[Discussion utilisateur:Romain.R|discussion]]) 18 août 2016 à 04:21 (EDT)
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:::: modified the Acti9 table (2 corrections) + completed with the 2 other tables, in coherence with FR PDF --[[Utilisateur:LMischler|LMischler]] ([[Discussion utilisateur:LMischler|discussion]]) 6 septembre 2016 à 07:50 (EDT)
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== '''Lighting''' section modification - coherence with EN wiki ==
 
== '''Lighting''' section modification - coherence with EN wiki ==

Version du 6 septembre 2016 à 07:50

Chapter N >> Migration done

Sommaire

points to check

Tables to be checked

Romain these tables were updated in EN wiki in 2013 or 2015, please confirm if Suniti should take EN table or FR PDF table --LMischler (discussion) 28 juin 2016 à 08:00 (EDT)
need to check with denis--Romain.R (discussion) 22 juillet 2016 à 05:14 (EDT)
We keep the datas from the FR pdf for the table 2 and 3--Romain.R (discussion) 18 août 2016 à 04:21 (EDT)
modified the Acti9 table (2 corrections) + completed with the 2 other tables, in coherence with FR PDF --LMischler (discussion) 6 septembre 2016 à 07:50 (EDT)
Romain to validate

Lighting section modification - coherence with EN wiki

I have modified the Lighting section, in coherence with EN wiki structure of pages --LMischler (discussion) 28 juillet 2016 à 16:41 (EDT)
as follows:
created page Choix du disjoncteur suivant le type de lampe, where I moved the related content which was in second part of page Choix du calibre du télérupteur ou du contacteur suivant le type de lampe
I removed page "Choix de disjoncteurs pour dispositifs à LED" ==> integrated in this new page Choix du disjoncteur suivant le type de lampe
I removed very small page "Évolutions des appareils de commande et de protection" ==> integrated in "Contraintes relatives ..."
content of page Choix du disjoncteur suivant le type de lampe to be updated as EN wiki
+ structure changes to be checked by Romain (nota: it is no more as FR PDF ...)
Fig N53 to N58 disapeared between the EN Book and the EN Wiki, mistake or on purpose ?--Romain.R (discussion) 29 juillet 2016 à 03:44 (EDT)




possible IMPROVEMENTS for the future

  • split table N54b in two parts ?




Actions to do in EN wiki by Laurent

missing descriptions after tables N64, N65b

some lines have been added in the tables, but related descriptions after table not updated
to be done by Laurent, cf mail of Daniel Barstz

EN table no. N54 is missing in FR

it's normal, it's EN iwki that is not yet updated, Laurent to do that
EN wiki updated --LMischler (discussion) 28 juillet 2016 à 16:09 (EDT)

No contents in EN link pages for module 4.5, 4.6 and 4.7

it is normal because this chapter has not yet been updated in EN wiki
Laurent to do it --LMischler (discussion) 28 juin 2016 à 08:00 (EDT)
EN wiki - chaper N - updated --LMischler (discussion) 28 juillet 2016 à 16:09 (EDT)



DONE

some tables in "Motor" sections have not been updated as EN guide

Romain these 3 tables have been updated in 2013 EN book I think, but this was not done in FR book ==> please confirm that FR book should be similar to EN


ok done for french, missing description in EN Wiki for Laurent --Romain.R (discussion) 22 juillet 2016 à 08:05 (EDT)


  • PDF pg N61 >> Fig N65b >> 2 rows are missing in FR (to be checked which one?) and one column (Avancee +) >> La surveillance des moteurs
to see with Laurent, description missing, new data from ??--Romain.R (discussion) 22 juillet 2016 à 08:18 (EDT)
Romain check info provided by mail today, to translate into french --LMischler (discussion) 25 juillet 2016 à 13:26 (EDT)


it should be like EN, for Suniti
Done ..Please check --Suniti (discussion) 25 juillet 2016 à 03:18 (EDT)


Suniti to modify as discussed (first part as normal text, second part as a table, separating first line as header column without [a] ... --LMischler (discussion) 28 juin 2016 à 08:00 (EDT)
Changed the table format >> to be checked --Suniti (discussion) 28 juin 2016 à 22:54 (EDT)
checked and OK --LMischler (discussion) 25 juillet 2016 à 13:26 (EDT)


Romain I think it's also a mistake in FR PDF
also check the "sub-headers" as in FR PDF the first one is missing (ballast ferromagnetique) and it is not OK to have twice "Calibre du disjoncteur modulaire courbes C et D" (see EN) --LMischler (discussion) 28 juin 2016 à 08:00 (EDT)
ok modified--Romain.R (discussion) 22 juillet 2016 à 08:33 (EDT)


Romain to check, I think it's a bug in FR book PDF --LMischler (discussion) 28 juin 2016 à 08:00 (EDT)
it's a bug, Suniti please take the EN data from wiki
Already as per EN wiki >> Done (please check)
Checked and OK --LMischler (discussion) 25 juillet 2016 à 13:20 (EDT)


Level 3 and 4

ok, Checked--Romain.R (discussion) 22 juillet 2016 à 05:32 (EDT)

As the two tables N63a and N63b are joined together so the text above the table need to be changed

Les systèmes de contrôle-moteur

Romain check this text, Suniti has merged 2 sentences together

Text in Bold

ok checked--Romain.R (discussion) 22 juillet 2016 à 04:33 (EDT)

Laurent to check how to manage the width of this table (now = "6col" which does not exist, 5col is not large enough ...)
I tried to use 5col width and manage the size of last column, for "correct" readability
it is not ideal but can work
Romain please confirm if it's OK, or if it is better to split again as 2 separate tables --LMischler (discussion) 28 juin 2016 à 08:00 (EDT)
ok--Romain.R (discussion) 22 juillet 2016 à 05:14 (EDT)

rather than trying to make it nice as one table for both AC and DC circuits, I decided to separate as 2 tables, one in each related paragraph (seems much more logical to me)
Romain to confirm as different from FR book PDF --LMischler (discussion) 28 juin 2016 à 08:00 (EDT)

PDF pg N7 >> Change in EN and FR formulas

Les fonctions de contrôle avec un alternateur

Suniti please do as in EN wiki
Romain: it was modified in EN book = added the factor ".100", so that the result is directly the value as a "percentage", eg 78 for 78%) --LMischler (discussion) 28 juin 2016 à 08:00 (EDT)
Formulas modified as per EN wiki --Suniti (discussion) 29 juin 2016 à 23:35 (EDT)

Images Text to be checked (moved the text(a,b,c) from Fig note text with the corresponding images)

Romain: I have re-created a title to the figure + placed part of book title below each figure ==> to be checked --LMischler (discussion) 28 juin 2016 à 08:00 (EDT)


Fig N66 >> to be checked with Laurent as added text with it

Configurations de démarreur-moteur

Suniti there is a very minor point on 3rd image = missing the thin line linking the "square image" to the title "Variateur", which exists in the book
Image modification done --Suniti (discussion) 29 juin 2016 à 23:31 (EDT)
ok, checked --LMischler (discussion) 7 juillet 2016 à 04:17 (EDT)

Image xls to be checked

Laurent to check last points in there
Suniti please reconvert the 2 images that are too small ... first I checked the width should be +- 400px, the second one check what seems coherent
also added one comment as in this talk page for Fig N66 (3rd image)
Reconverted the images..>> To be checked --Suniti (discussion) 1 juillet 2016 à 03:22 (EDT)
ok, checked
Suniti to migrate/create this table as per our discussion of this morning --LMischler (discussion) 28 juin 2016 à 08:00 (EDT)
Created thge table..Titles and fig text need to be confirmed as both are saying "Fig N54" and the titles are also the same --Suniti (discussion) 30 juin 2016 à 03:16 (EDT)
I modified figure numbers to N54a and N54b (+ updated the "voir table ..." text before the table)--LMischler (discussion) 7 juillet 2016 à 04:06 (EDT)
also, as discussed during weekly meeting, we will table N54b like this (and keep memory of possible improvement = split in 2 tables)